He just got sent to Baltimore. This guy has such weird numbers. Last year, thanks to a .198 avg over about 500 AB's, he had 99 hits - and 85 RBI!
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=28772
I wonder what the most RBI without getting 100 hits in a season is...I bet 85 is right up there and might just be the most. I checked Bonds, the highest total he got for RBI with under 100 hits was a "lowly" 77.
-Natron (12/6/10)
Response 1:
Those numbers are bonkers. 32 HR. 85 RBI. His ISO power was STILL over .200.
How about Big Mac in 1995?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=1738
87 H
39 HR
90 RBI
And his 2000-2001 numbers (72H/32HR/73RBI, 56H/29HR/64RBI).
-StanO (12/6/10)
Response 2:
Holy s#!%. 87 H and 39 were home runs. I literally just laughed out loud when i saw his ISO power that year. Omg you're never gonna guess.
.411
I almost just sharted!
Oh, I just outdid it...the follwing year ie 1996 his ISO was .418
but here's the topper: in 2001, Bonds' ISO was a smooth (drum roll please)
five hundred and
thirty and
five
.535. Isolated Power. Not slugging percentage. Slugging MINUS bavg. Dear God man.
Even Babe Ruth had the decency to have a hi enough avg to stay below .500 in any given season.
PS Sosa had a .409 ISO in 2001. And I'm done searching for more.
-Natron (12/7/10)
Response 3:
That ISO power is nuts-o. Hey, remember when we started looking at ISO power to explore the power that some guys hit with, even if their averages weren't so great? Now it's becoming more popular as a "very legitimate" statistic (even sabermetric-like).
How can one iso power .535? That's insane. No, wait a minute, that's juice. I guess there are some sick ISO's out there!
-StanO (12/8/10)
Response 4:
Have you actually seen ISO power used? I don't know what the actual math would be, since theyre calculating different stuff, aren't they?
Batting Average: Singles/AB
Slugging Percentage: (singles+doubles*2+triples*3+hr*4)/AB
ISO Power: [(singles+doubles*2+triples*3+hr*4)-singles]/AB
I guess it kind of is like a percentage of extra bases per AB? Or is it the ratio of having one of your hits be an extra base hit? OR the number of extra base hits more than singles?
This is why I Can't Do Math.
-Natron (12/8/10)
Response 5:
It looks at how much more you are doing than hitting singles when you are hitting. If the batter hit singles exclusively, his ISO would be .000
-StanO (12/9/10)
Response 6:
So what does each number stand for? Like does .100 mean you're hitting an extra base than someone who hits all singles? How does it actually compute? I know in practice that we've found .200 means youre a power hitter.
-Natron (12/10/10)
Response 7:
Yeah, Nate (wow, I shouldn't be responding to this right now...), .100 is like getting an extra base. It "weights" the type of hits you're getting. For example: see Ichiro's ISO power versus (your boy) JD Drew's ISO power... Despite having a career avg. 50 points higher than Drew's, his career slg is LOWER. So, do you want the guy who's "constantly" hitting singles in your lineup, or do you want the guy who can bash a couple in (like Drew) despite the lower likelihood of actually getting a hit? It tells you about the type of hitter he is. Then again, Ichiro can get himself to 2nd base on a steal. So, really ISO power gives you more info about the hitter.
Take Reynolds and his sub-.200 avg... His slugging was STILL higher than Ichiro's and there was over a 100-point difference in their averages. Reynolds might knock himself (or 4 total) in with one swing. The chances are much lower that Ichiro would do the same.
Did that help?
-StanO (12/10/10)
Response 8:
That does help. It also might implicate why Ichiro has supposedly been knocked as a guy who would rather slap an infield single than try to get a solid hit and drive a guy in from second. I think Ichiro has said (or certainly demonstrated) that he could drive the ball if he wanted to, albeit with a lower overall success rate. If he could trade 50 points of batting average for 50 points of slugging, should he? His ISO would be all the same. But the guy with the higher slugging percentage and lower average probably gets more RBI than the higher average singles hitter.
-Natron (2/26/11)
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